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Devit ([personal profile] halfcocked) wrote2008-12-08 07:53 pm

IC CONTINUATIONS STUFF

[since my other two continuation posts are like 1000 comments each let's make a new one]

[identity profile] halfcocked.livejournal.com 2009-02-26 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
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[drawing it] It's like a sick tree with branches . . . it doesn't matter how many branches the tree has! Maybe some of the branches got sick ten years ago, and others got sick 6000 years ago, they're still all sick. If the branch you're on got sick thousands of years in the past, it doesn't matter how good you are, you're still sick, and you don't even know it any more because it was so long ago! That's what history really looks like. Maybe there used to be truth, but it's been too long for there to be any left. 'Cuz what are the chances that in 7000 years, no one on your branch ever lied about something that happened?

[identity profile] a-holy-oak.livejournal.com 2009-02-26 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying no one lied ever, or that things have changed over time--but truth might also change, depending. But even if there were things glossed over or unwritten or forgotten--I still think there's something worth learning from history. No one is completely without fault, and history will remember those as well. That's what people can learn from it.

[identity profile] halfcocked.livejournal.com 2009-02-26 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
What's that mean, truth might change? It's the truth!

[identity profile] a-holy-oak.livejournal.com 2009-02-26 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It changes depending on who tells it. Both people might be telling the truth--but to a third party, they'll sound like completely different versions of the same event.

[identity profile] halfcocked.livejournal.com 2009-02-26 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
That's just two parts of the truth! It's not the truth that changed, just who was looking at it! That's exactly what it's like, being a Noah . . .

[identity profile] a-holy-oak.livejournal.com 2009-02-26 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It's still a truth that's changed.

[identity profile] halfcocked.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
No, no! It's like--like you're looking at the back of my head right now! If I turned around you'd see the front! But my head didn't change, it's just how you look at it! In my world, there's a whole side humans can't see! [turns around to look at Hakuren, gesturing vaguely] Some humans see the back side and some of 'em see the front, and they all talk about what they see and get in fucking wars over it because they all think they're right, but being a Noah . . . is like being able to see the inside, too. But that doesn't mean my head changed. Do you get it??

[identity profile] a-holy-oak.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone sees everything differently, yes, I get that. But seeing a physical person, or object--that's different from seeing a major historical event, where any number of hundreds of things could have contributed. Even if I could see inside your head, I would probably see something very different from what you believe to be in there.

[identity profile] halfcocked.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I-I don't get it! It sounds the same to me! It doesn't matter what I think is there, it won't change because of what I think!

[identity profile] a-holy-oak.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
...

Nor will it change because of what I think. But what I see as the truth is very different from what you see.

[identity profile] halfcocked.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
But that just means I'm wrong!

[identity profile] a-holy-oak.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
... why don't we just look at the book?

[identity profile] halfcocked.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I-I'm not wrong! [sighs and turns back to the book though, kind of cuddling up again]

[identity profile] a-holy-oak.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
[leans on, letting Devit turn the pages at his own pace]